John Dillery, Clio’s Other Sons: Berossus and Manetho, with an afterword on Demetrius. Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press, , Pp. Book review of Dillery (J.) Clio’s other sons: Berossus and Manetho, with an afterword on Demetrius. Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press. An Opportunity: Hellenization and World History. Something obviously very big happened in the history of the world in the Hellenistic period.

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An interview with John Dillery, author of Clio’s Other Sons: Berossus and Manetho

Do you set out with a basic hypothesis that you wish to demonstrate, and organise your material accordingly, or do you start out with an idea that inspires you, and let the material lead you where it will?

Vitruvius credits him with the invention of the semi-circular sundial hollowed out of a cubical block. In other projects Wikimedia Commons. This page was last edited on 10 Julyat Authors Instructors Media Booksellers Librarians. Where do you start? Please follow and like us: One does need to stress the great humanity of ancient Greek literature, but at the same time you need to manehho your students that ancient Greek culture is not our own — that its literature was produced was produced in very specific times and places.

Clio’s Other Sons

The list of sententiae is annd much like lists we find elsewhere e. An afterword considers Demetrius, the approximate contemporary of Berossus and Manetho in time, if not in culture. Our study of Ancient history is complicated by the lack of written contemporary sources.

What we have of ancient Mesopotamian myth is somewhat comparable with Berossus, though the exact integrity with which he transmitted his sources is unknown because much of the literature of Mesopotamia has not survived.

Perhaps Berossos was a prisoner of his own methodology and mandtho. According to him, all knowledge was revealed to humans by the sea monster Oannes after the Creation, and so Verbrugghe and Wickersham anr New methods, and old ones too, have challenged this view: Fraser, Ptolemaic Alexandria Oxfordvol.

I started by thinking hard about why these manetbo priests — Berossus the Babylonian and Manetho the Egyptian — would want to write a history of their native lands in a language not their own, using in some cases methods of treating the past that were not their own, but from elements that were.

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The manethl between Genesis 1—2 and Berossus that are absent in Enuma Elish the darkness of the primeval waters; the creation of animals can be explained without the dependency of Genesis on Berossus pp. Gmirkin does not consider the possibility that Babylonian and Canaanite literary sources lie behind the Exodus story.

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They were members of native elites under the domination of Macedonian overlords; in their writings we can see suggestions that they collaborated in the foreign rule of their lands, but at the same time we see them advocating for their cultures. Similarly, the great Babylonian king Hammurabi ca. Who were to profit by the mission of Clearchus if not only fellow Greeks? Berossus and Manetho operated at the crossings of several political, social, and intellectual worlds.

Certain astrological fragments recorded by Pliny the ElderCensorinusFlavius Josephusand Marcus Vitruvius Pollio are also attributed to Berossus, but are of unknown provenance, or indeed are uncertain as to where they might fit into his History.

Greek culture, the one I know best and with which I am principally concerned, went from being the possession of a relatively small number of people clustered around the shores of the Eastern and Central Mediterranean to a tool of communication and social construction in the hands of many, many more people and in many other places, some quite far from the central Greek homelands. Views Read Edit View history. Only in Book 3 do we see his opinions begin to enter the picture. The inscription creates the impression of a torchbearer of civilization preserving paideia in the barbaric hinterlands with almost missionary zeal.

There is a collection of articles on Berossus: Again, it is likely that he used king-lists, though it is not known which ones he used. Moyer, Egypt and the Limits of Hellenism Cambridgeesp. Even if it is true that Manetho did not have the Exodus story in mind p. How do you think this affects what modern historians write about recent history?

The Mesopotamian documents known as King-List A one copy from the 6th or 5th centuries BC and Chronicle 1 3 copies with one confidently dated to BC are usually suggested as the ones he manehto, due to the synchronicity between those and his History though there are some differences. Elsewhere, he included a geographical description of Babylonia, similar to that found in Herodotus on Egyptand used Greek classifications. Greek historiography in general, Hellenistic historiography in particular, and even Babylonian and Egyptian history.


Hopefully, they will see that humanity ajd united by common problems and the attempts at solving them, but that the way the problems are defined and the attempted solutions bear the hallmarks of the worlds that produce them. Christian writers after Eusebius are probably reliant on him, but include Pseudo-Justinus 3rd—5th centuryHesychius of Alexandria 5th centuryAgathias —Moses of Chorene 8th centuryan unknown geographer of unknown date, and the Suda Byzantine berossus from the 10th century.

Yet there are problems. Both their works are also lost, possibly considered too long, but Eusebius Bishop of Caesaria c. What sort of histories berkssus be written in future? This is similar to another Babylonian history, Chronicle of Nabonidus as well as to the Hebrew Bibleand differs berossis the rationalistic accounts of other Greek historians like Thucydides.

The Greek text of the Chronicon is also now lost to us but there is an ancient Armenian translation — AD of it, [10] and portions are quoted in Georgius Syncellus ‘s Ecloga Chronographica c.

GmirkinBerossus and Genesis, Manetho and Exodus: Dillery is Professor of Classics, University of Virginia. It is an immensely stimulating book that will foster much future research on Berossus and Manetho. This early approach to historiography, though preceded by Hesiod, Herodotus, and the Berpssus Bible, demonstrates its own unique approach.

An excerpt from Clio’s Other Sons: Berossus and Manetho, by John Dillery – Runciman Award

Green, Alexander to Actium: Book 1 fragments are preserved in Eusebius and Syncellus above, and describe the Babylonian creation account and establishment of order, including the defeat of Thalatth Tiamat by Bel Marduk.

Today, we live in the age of information overload. Like Herodotus and Thucydides, he probably autographed his work berkssus the benefit of later writers. Secondly, he constructed a narrative from Creation to his present, again similar to Herodotus or the Hebrew Bible. Please follow and like us: However, in Gilgameshthe main protagonist is Utnapishtim, while for Berossus, Xisouthros is probably a Greek transliteration of Ziusudra, the protagonist of the Sumerian version of the Flood.